Not Netbeans 9.0, Java 11
Well that effort was short-lived, no CVS plugin anymore.
It's not that hard to live without, just use the command line
and/or emacs, but today i've already wasted enough time trying to
find out if it will ever return (on which question I found no
answer, clear or otherwise).
It was also going to be a bit of a pain translating an existing
project into a 'modular' one, even though from the perspective of
a makefile it's only a couple of small changes.
Netbeans 9, Java 11
So after months of rewriting license headers netbeans 9 is finally
out. So I finally had a bit more of a serious look at migrating
to openjdk + openjfx 11 for work.
Eh, it's going to be a bit of a pain but I think overall it should
be an improvement worth the effort. When i'm less hungover and
better-slept i'll start looking into jmodularising my projects
One unfortunate bit is that netbeans doesn't seem to support
native libraries in modules so i'll need to use makefiles for
those. This is one of the more interesting features of jmods so
i'm also looking into utilising that a bit more.
At the moment as i'm looking into some deep learning stuff so i've
got a lot of time between drinks - pretty much every stage of it
is an obnoxiously slow process.
Lots of other little things to look into as well, and now the next
yearly contract has finally been done I don't have an easy excuse
for putting in fuck-all hours!
Dead Cats Dont Bounce
My cat died sometime in the last few weeks.
He was acting a bit strange and sore for a while. I later found
out my nephew had stepped on him - looking at his fucking phone no
doubt. But following that he did seem to recover - he wasn't
quite himself but he didn't seem to be bothered by anything as
such. Then one day he stopped turning up for food and I haven't
seen him since. However I started to smell dead-animal from a
spot he used to sleep in. Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately)
I can't get to where it is - deep under a low deck - so I just
have to wait for the flies and bugs to do their work. It's also
right next to the loungeroom so it's a bit unpleasant depending on
Rest In Peace gentle killer.
Life goes on ...
In other news.
Work has been slow for a few months - partly my mood, partly the
work, and significantly the countract hasn't been renewed.
There's still some money remaining but it's running out. The org
is just being funny about contractors, they'd rather deal with
multinationals who fleece them and the country than with local
Not that I really care, barely been doing 2 days/week of work and
i'm still earning enough to blow way way too much at the pub. At
least those 2 days have been solid lately, customers are
super-happy with everything. The weather is slowly improving but
still has a ways to go to be beer drinking weather, not that it's
stopped me so far. The the weird bloke in a kilt that hangs
around a certain pub. Hmmm.
Nephew is pissing me off by just being here (i'm still not sure
how annoyed i should be with him over the whole stepping on the
cat thing). He was only supposed to be living with me for a
couple of months while he prepared the paperwork to go into the
army after emigrating from The Philippines but he decided to do an
apprentiship instead and he's been here over a year now. Mostly
nothing major but it's the little things like having to clean the
stove up to use it every time he's used it before, stack the
dishwasher properly, remind him to do things, and well just having
someone else banging around the house. His old man is visiting
this week so hopefully I can find out when he's moving out.
I've been lazy lazy for months but I finally did a few things on
the garden and around the house - pruning, mulching, weeding,
clearing up piles of wood. Build a short staircase from the deck
to the ground (one day to be paving). A few days here and there
of warmer weather helped.
My mood has continued to be pretty flat for the most part, and
worse than that every now and then. Often but not always sleep
related - i'm always tired but sometimes more tired than others.
I have to stop reading the news and forums - the world is just so
fucked up and so are too many of the people in it. Every time I
read about big corps or politicians I just want to go drink (or
Odds n Sods
Not playing games much but when I do it's usually No Man's Sky. I
think the game design is getting a little unfocused but it's still
an ok way to blow a few hours now and then. I really dislike the
new sentinal timeout mechanics though.
Looking at building a mini-ITX Ryzen machine but just can't decide
on bits and pieces. APU or 2700x+small GPU? I started building a
small case by hacking away at a bigger one (approx 200x400x400mm
-> 200x200x200mm) but that's still work in progress.
As an ongoing thing i've been poking around a start-up that's
looking at doing some machine vision/learning/artistic stuff, but
i'm just not certain I can commit to it and I just haven't been
coding much outside of work. It has the potential to be a whole
heap of fun but it just hasn't grabbed me so far.
Another shitty `technology' company
I have my previous workstation for work sitting idle so I thought
i'd drop in an xubuntu install and try building openjdk &
openjfx on it. It's got a 6x core I7-980 and plenty of RAM so it
should be ok right?
Well all went well until I tried to build webkit, just for
completeness. Result - consistent ICE inside g++. Blast. Well I
thought it was consistent until I tried it with a fresh build of
gcc 7.3, this also crashed but in a different place and when I
went back to the system gcc I noticed the crash whilst repeatable
wasn't in a consistent place. Actually it started crashing
everywhere, even inside various jvm based tasks.
This is typically a symptom of system problems, specifically RAM.
I looked in the BIOS incase it's been overclocked but it is so
ancient there's no settings for RAM, I ran a few memory testers, I
tried various numbers of threads for the build.
Then I remembered Intel and their notorious bugs this year causing
system stability problems in some cases. I tried to find the
options to turn off the bug mitigations but (in part due to isp
maintenance at just that moment) I gave up and just booted with
the 4.10.x kernel.
Oh look, works fine now (well, it compiles cleanly, webkit tests
Perhaps this is a failure of Canonical, or the Linux developers?
No, ultimately it's because Intel cut too many corners and have
shit hardware. Then again any company that could design something
as poor as HPET in this day and age is obviously fucking
On a related note i've been eyeing off a Ryzen system every few
months. I price one up and think about it but ultimately leave it
for the time being. I'm just not doing enough computing beyond
'read internet' to justify it. Another thing I can't decide on is
between some 'low-end' APU system or a beastly 2700X machine. The
RAM is still so $$$ here and you need good ram for either. At
least the last time I specced one up I noticed from some
benchmarks than a 2700X would pretty much cream that old I7-980 at
1/4 of the price (or less, not that I paid for it).
No nice things
So my experiment with bittorrent here has ended before it even
started. I was running transmission-daemon as the seeder - but
apart from a couple of short tests only had it running with no
torrents being seeded.
Despite that i'm getting 500MB+ traffic PER DAY! just from peer requests (I
guess, as there seems to be no way to find out what's going on
And the thing is I never publically released the torrent files it
was seeding so some port scraper has done it and added it to some
peer exchange. Despite blocking the port i'm still getting dozens
of incoming packets per minute but I guess they'll quieten down
Fortunately I don't pay for traffic.
Ahh google, the `great' advertising company!
Oh nice one, they've decided
all of Blender's videos on youtube because they don't want to
turn on advertising.
Essentially blackmailing them into becoming part of their slurping
adversiting empire where they get to make most of the money from
peoples labour whilst paying a pittance. Despite not being a real
user of it, as one of the original supporters who helped fund the
freeing of Blender way back when with a few hundred dollars I'm
pretty apalled they would be treated this way (although not
Fortunately the technology is coming together so that alternatives
exist to a monolithic/expensive server such
as PeerTube which uses
WebTorrent, or InterPlanetary File
System (IPFS), and others. blender.org is experimenting with
a peertube instance
Of course that only works so long as bittorrent isn't blocked, or
WebRTC isn't blocked, or backbone operators start to throttle
protocols competing with those that are part of their corporate
conglomerate or have not been paid for. Or regulatory capture
though some pro-establishment law effectively bans it (like the EU
Copyright `Article 13' crap happening now).
Even if some backlash makes them change their mind it's just
another example of the problem of corporate
centralisation/ownership of culture.
Free Software JavaFX
I've been keeping a (rather loose) eye out on the availability of
a fully free-software JavaFX for a while. Whilst all
distributions now ship OpenJDK by default and that works fine for
anything not JavaFX, the OpenJFX stuff has still been work in
progress and hasn't generally been available.
Anyway I thought i'd try to compile it myself. Of course the
first thing I noticed was that
a preview build IS now
available but I decided to keep going anyway so I could build
a complete integrated JDK/JRE rather than having to manually link
it in at runtime.
For the first part of the problem, following
instructions was quite straightforward, at least on Ubuntu
16.04. I manually installed a couple of the specific build tools
required and a couple of extra -dev packages. I didn't bother
with building the bundled webkit for now. Even on this gutless
under-RAM'd machine it didn't even take terribly long. I used
the openjdk 10 for the
Then I looked into integration witht the jdk (later section in the
build instructions). I was too lazy to read most of the build
instructions so I just went with configure && make, although after
a few iterations I settled on:
$ mkdir build
$ cd build
$ ../configure --with-import-modules=../../rt/build/modular-sdk \
$ make product-images
Some time later it's all done and I ran some simple tests and
Bob's your uncle. Stripping the debug symbols just reduces the
size of the install (significantly) although it's probably worth
keeping them at this early stage.
The slowest part was checking out the mecurial repositories.
Oh, I couldn't get the jdk tests to run :-/
just complained that it couldn't determine the JVM version.
Trying to search the interwebs has so far been fruitless - it's
not terribly important for now and I successfully ran
bootcycle-build which self-compiles after
bootstrapping which is at least some bit of testing.
Update: Not sure where I got it from but the jtreg I had
was out of date so it couldn't handle the new version string.
Starting on the jtreg
page got me the latest (4.2b12) and now the testing is
Although this box doesn't have much disk it does have enough for a
few big blobs so I thought I'd look into distributing a build
well!). To that end I sussed out setting up a private tracker
and seeding torrents directly from this machine.
Anyway i've mostly worked it out but it isn't quite ready but i'll
get to it eventually.
With the short lifetime of Java 9 and 10 i've basically just
ignored them completely - i'm still using 8.x everywhere. But
Java 11 is going to be LTS release so it's probably time to start
Having a fully free build of the whole platform is an important
part of that for my hobby code. Now I just need the motivation ...
Update 2: And NetBeans, which is still not supporting a Java
that was EOL'd 3 months ago. I'm sure they've nearly go the
licensing sorted out though!
Ok so I guess i'm a bit out of the loop (and search engines failed
me again, it took me hours to come across this stuff, mostly by
is going to removed from the JDK. And additionally the JRE
will also go away(?) and basically replaced with standalone
platform-specific builds via jlink. Actually i'm not sure how the
latter will work, maybe that's just wrt the openjdk; and in any
event Oracle are committing to another few years of Java 8 releases.
Given that all the 'action' is server-side I guess it makes some
sense. Just not for me!
Huh, I wonder why the current jdk build process allows linking in
the JavaFX module then. Unclear. Just doing so breaks the tests
so it's probably just the build system lagging slightly. Then
again the make_runargs.sh script used to run against the javafx
module doesn't seem to work against openjdk11 anyway. Well unless
there's some other meachanism but neither javafxpackager nor
javapackager get built - does jlink do all that now? So far my
searching has been pretty futile and a lot of the documentation is
either out of date or hard to find. I suppose it's still
basically work in progress and/or i'm just not that motivated to
dig deep enough.
Well I did waste the day anyway so whatever. At least AMD
announced some nice hardware and Intel made an arse of themselves
with their 'first' 5Ghz cpu demo which needed to be plugged into a
fridge to run for 10 seconds.
Oh, there is also openjfx in ubuntu repos, but it only goes to 8.
I can't remember if i looked at it in the past, probably did but I
think I was looking at java9 at the time not realising how short
lived it would be. I should've just stayed with 8.
Well I did find something about running against the standalone
this blog post. I guess all that javapackager stuff is gone
or something since webstart and applets are defunct? Not that I
ever used it anyway. Shrug.
and making a partial copy of the jre for every application will
be `easier' than just sending out a jar and having a central single
installation of a jre. Wot?
Everyone seems to be a bit upset that Oracle are only going to
provide commercial support for the oracle jdk11+ too - but given
how much they've invested in making the openjdk feature parity I
think they did ok for such an `evil' company. I mean, it's not
like they forked some public commons like Linux or something as
github and m$
I only had a couple of long abandoned projects on github but now
i've deleted my account. I don't see the immediate reason why m$
would want to buy it but it can't be for a good one for anyone else.
I wonder if they'd have bought if it git had the same meaning in
american as it does in english - i.e. bastard, fuckwit, etc.
But anyway I guess it's just as well I didn't move anything there
when google code shut down, saves me the hassle of doing it again.
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